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11.02.2009

Hate!

I don't know much about hatred. What a lie! I know a good deal about it from experience at least, and after reading the latest confession (and ensuing comments) on Call the Angels, it seems to me that most people are just as well-acquainted with hatred as I am. That post is an oasis of ill will among friends of mine who are, in almost every other context, generally lovely individuals. We all get together to watch bad movies; we huddle around someone's laptop to look at photographs; we cram for tests and debate socio-political issues--but rarely do we discuss our hatred for certain people (unless they are people whom it is fashionable to dislike). In a way, this is noble, because we learned long ago that badmouthing our friends behind their backs was obnoxious and unwise.

But I noticed a funny trend in the aforementioned post and comments: we all feel guilty about hating people. Talking about it makes us uncomfortable (some more than others, of course). I get ticked off at my friends quite frequently, and for relatively particular reasons; I would never hire a hit man, but an exorcist. For this I feel, as many others apparently do, like a bad person. Hardly ever would I try to justify one of my hate-episodes to someone else. But why am I so disposed to loathe my friends when it makes me feel bad about myself? Why do other people apparently have the same problem?

Well, here goes. We're all complicated individuals who have a lot of crap to deal with--so much, in fact, that it would take ages to explain it all to a friend. There's a lot of stuff in my life (ranging from the petty to the not-so-petty) that most of my friends don't know about, and the longer I go in a friendship without talking about it, the harder it becomes to broach the subject. Why haven't I told you all my super dark secrets (and why haven't you, in all likelihood, told me yours)? Let's be honest: we have stuff to do. There are homework and college apps to finish, and family problems to sort out, and concerts to go to and movies to see. Every once in a while there is free time, a lethargic delirium that we don't know what to do with. So frankly, who has time anymore to listen to a friend's problems and actually give a shit (unless it is one of those really good Spock-Kirk friendships, of which I think almost everybody has one or two)?

I call many people "friends," but most of them I don't know all that well, and neither do they know me. So when I'm in a bad mood, or poopy things are happening in my life, my interactions with those friends are spoiled. I look at them talking and cracking inside jokes and nibbling away at their own goals and I think, "Who the fuck are you, anyway? Why are we sitting at the same table when you don't know the first thing about my life?" This won't necessarily make me start to hate one of my friends, but if the seed of minor annoyance is already there, then this new dimension--the superficiality of our friendship--will cause it to germinate.

Now, this claim that I've been making, that you have to grow up with me or otherwise know all about me in order to be spared my wrath, is a little harsh. An easier substitute: yell at me when I'm obnoxious, which sometimes I am. I know that I'm a bad listener, and that I'm flaky and never get stuff done on time, and that I butt into conversations at random moments saying "What? Who are we talking about?" Call me on it. Sure, I'll be disgruntled with you for the next day or so, but then we will have gained a new level of intimacy and I'll be less disposed to hate you at a later date. Just think of it like Star Trek! Without Spock vs. Kirk, there would have been no Spirk.

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Blogger Funnyscruffs zei...

spirk love! Also, as I Laat een reactie achter, I can't help but wonder why it is that all of my friends seem to have this hatred in them. Yes, sometimes I get annoyed with people but only for a moment and then, in my head, the thought goes racing by, "YOU ARE SO LUCKY TO HAVE THESE FRIENDS DON'T QUESTION IT!" and then any seed of hatred kind of goes away. I actually cannot think of anyone right now who I have ever legitimately hated. I have not liked people a great deal and may have used the word "hate," but I just don't understand how annoyance is so easy to replace with "EVIL" or some other, equally epic word. I know that you guys are all amazingly kind people and to think that you are hiding behind this hatred saddens me to no end. I can't imagine hating someone. Truly hating.
Also, I question your logic about saying something obnoxious like, "Hey, stop doing that. It bothers me," just because I cannot stand being mad/ people being mad at me and I don't think that it actually furthers the "intimacy" of the friendship. I think that, if anything, it detracts a little bit. I mean, you have to be honest with your friends, but there is a way to do that that will not make the other person so angry at you that you don't speak for a day. Overall, I guess I am just a huge proponent and keeping everything on the up-and-up and going with social norms because they are what keep up sane. If everyone started telling everyone how they felt all of the time then we all WOULD start to hate each other. That is why sometimes blunt truth is good and sometimes it sucks rear. As someone who is largely blatantly honest with everyone, I can say that the few things that I don't tell people about whatever (no big secrets, just stupid stuff) are just because sometimes secrets are ok.

In other words: don't hate, feel the love.

11:59 p.m.  
Blogger Ahaneen zei...

Jigs, your comment proves that a) you are a wonderful person for not being sucked into the hate trend, and b) certain methods work for some people and not for others. A couple things:

The word "hate." It is indeed a strong word, and maybe stronger than I intended. Since I only feel ill will towards people in bursts, and since it's usually related to one particular part of the person, you're right. I don't actually "hate" my friends. I was lazy when writing this and didn't bother to find a better word--then again, the English language contains very few words between annoyance and hatred; what's a blogger to do?--but you're completely right.

I'm sorry that this post saddened you, but that certainly wasn't my intent. (I wrote it hastily, so my bad.) My theory is, in fact, the opposite--rather than we being naturally hateful people and our friends all deserving of our hatred, our extreme annoyance at each other is fueled by the fact that we don't know each other very well. Thinking about the few friends who I believe know me very well, good and bad (you are, btw, one of those friends), I can't remember the last time I got mad at them. So I think that if we could all step back from our own self-absorbed lives and just get to know each other, loving each other would come much more naturally.

That's the reasoning behind the last paragraph. I receive a lot of compliments from my friends, which is really lovely, but I often wonder if they know my bad parts (they have to, those parts being many). For me--and perhaps not for you--this is a little unsettling. My behavior needs correcting as often as not. Friends should be the ones to do that, no? I don't enjoy being corrected (and I'm better than I was in 5th grade; I won't be silent to the person for a day), but having a friend confront me about something I've done wrong makes them a better friend for me, not a worse one.

I agree that those kinds of confrontations should be dealt with tactfully; there's no need for people to fly into rages. "Yell at me" is the wrong phrasing. Oops again.

7:19 a.m.  
Blogger Ishani zei...

SPIRK. <3<3<3

I agree that we don't get to know many of our "friends" as well as we'd like....but you already knew that. In fact, I'm pretty sure you know my opinions on all of this - I think you're spot on.

p.s. Did you ever give me the silent treatment for correcting you in middle school? Because I was a bossy little twit, and I definitely corrected you all the time...oops. BUT I REGRET NOTHING!

8:34 a.m.  
Blogger xxdeath.by.chocolatexx zei...

Spirk <3<3<3. I just realized that I don't like those symbols because they don't look enough like hearts. HATE. I like hating. Hating things are fun. Maybe, one day, the hate inside me will be less, and I will grow into a warm and loving person, rather than the apathetic and cold person I am, with a disproportionately giggly exterior. Maybe you are right. Maybe I don't have time to tell everyone about my problems, but I think in general I like talking about myself enough that I will tell anyone just about everything.

Cry.

I love you. Bye.

8:52 a.m.  
Blogger Funnyscruffs zei...

You cleared up a lot with that response and I rescind any sort of "confrontation" that may have been insinuated in my comment. ALSO I LOVE YOU ALL

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